Whether that’s because Marvel was afraid of offending people or whether they did not want to delve into the horrors of the Holocaust in a summer blockbuster, I’m not sure. With The First Avenger, it seems as if the intent of the filmmakers was to display Captain America fighting Nazis without having him actually fight Nazis. When we talk about HYDRA in the MCU, I find it necessary to talk about their portrayal in Captain America: The First Avenger separately from Captain America: The Winter Soldier, because the portrayal of HYDRA onscreen greatly varies between the films. Is MCU HYDRA a Nazi organization? Is comic Hydra a Nazi organization? Does it detract from the intent of Captain America’s creators to have him fight non-Nazis? What about Neo-Nazism? Even if HYDRA is not Nazi, aren’t they still irredeemably evil? Why does any of this matter? Each section header will be bolded, so you can skip to whatever section you would like.
At the very least, I hope to create a useful resource for people having this argument.īelow the Read More, I will discuss the following questions. Maybe I’ll change minds and maybe I won’t. I doubt that this post will end that debate, but I feel compelled to put my feelings on the matter into print. The “are HYDRA Nazis” debate is one I’ve seen time and again, and one that always seems to go the same way. Tumblr as a whole leans toward a disturbingly binary view of morality and history, and the overall Tumblr reaction to fans of HYDRA characters displays that clearly. I’ve seen people called “racist shitbags” for discussing HYDRA’s ideologies in meta posts. I’ve seen those who write fan fiction from the point of view of HYDRA agents called Nazi sympathizers. In fandom, they’re also the cause of much debate. They evaded detection within S.H.I.E.L.D. In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the failure of Insight was HYDRA’s first major setback in seventy years.
When it comes to fictitious terrorist organizations, HYDRA is impressive. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Season 1, Episode 20: “Nothing Personal” The Red Skull, founder of Hydra, was a big, fat, freaking Nazi. It’s in the SHIELD handbook, chapter one. Skye: That – that is the twisted logic that they teach you when you sign up to be a Nazi. “Hail HYDRA and Heil Hitler? Hydra and Nazi Ideology,” by lauralot89
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